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carol kaye is a badass

March 22, 2012 by cwilliams

It’s funny that most people these days think of me as a bass player. But holding down the rhythm with four giant steel strings is a relatively new development in my life. I’ve been playing acoustic guitar since I was a wee ten years old – thanks to Daddy. But going electric was as adventurous as I’d gotten – and that didn’t even happen in full force until a couple decades later.

Playing bass was at first a practical matter: Jamie and I were playing in The Modeens in Los Angeles with our friend Phil on drums. Jamie was the bass player, but he’s a much more powerful and versatile guitar player than I am and we started thinking: what about changing roles? I’d admired the bass since my New York days – I’d played with some amazing bass players in New York, including Dan Green and Michael P Nordberg (though he’s gone over to the 6-string side these days to great effect). And Jamie himself is a rockin’ bass man (check him out singing and playing in his old band, Frankenorange!) They all had schooled me in blues and rock and the important role bass plays as part of the bedrock of those sounds. You gotta groove those lower notes in time with the beats to create the undeniable soul sensation that gets other people to move with you. So let’s say I was a little bit intimidated at first.

Then Jamie gave me my birthday present: a lesson with Carol Kaye. I freaked out. THE Carol Kaye! She was alive and living in Los Angeles and you could actually pay her for a lesson! Can you believe it? What? Carol who? C’mon, you’ve never heard of Carol Kaye? Well sit yerself down and I’ll tell you about the most badass of bass players whose funky fingers helped create almost all of your favorite sounds from the sixties and seventies.

Carol Kaye came from a musical family and had already started playing as a professional jazz guitarist (and teacher) in the fifties when she was just 14. At that time, a bass string sound only had one source: a giant standup double bass about six feet tall. Then somebody (Leo Fender) had the bright idea that if you could make guitars electric, why not make a bass version? So Fender became the enterprising company that produced these new fangled instruments, but nobody really knew how to play them yet. Carol recalls that she was at a Sam Cooke gig, getting ready to take out her guitar when the word came down that the only guy they knew who could play the studio’s Fender bass couldn’t make it. They asked Carol if she could give it a shot and she said, sure, why not?

That was the beginning of an amazing career. She became the top session player – any time a big studio needed players for a recording artist or TV show or soundtrack, Carol was the first on their list in Hollywood, recording over 10,000 sessions in her heydey. She was even part of the Wrecking Crew – a stable of top-notch musicians including Tommy Tedesco and Hal Blaine who did the actual performing of tunes you thought were played by The Beach Boys, The Mamas and The Papas, Derek and The Dominos, and the like.

And she was a single mother – yeah, she would work 13-16 hour days recording as many as 3 different songs while raising three young-uns of her own. In fly gogo boots to boot. So what did she play on? For starters, Good Vibrations, Feelin’ Alright, I’m A Believer, These Boots Are Made For Walkin, and thousands more. Heard any of those? Then you know who I’m talking about!

And I was going to meet her. And she was gonna teach me to play the bass! The day of our first lesson, Jamie was almost more nervous than I was – she was his bass hero! It was a bit of a drive from Venice (then again, this is Los Angeles where everything is a bit of a drive.) After some time on the 405, we finally found her house in a cluster of condos in a very suburban area. We collectively held our breath after ringing the doorbell. When the door opened, we met a mature, petite woman with short, frosted hair and large tinted glasses. She gave us a big smile and welcomed us inside. Carol had just moved from another home, so there were still unpacked boxes and the occasional coo from her covey of doves upstairs. In the living room, she had a very simple set up for lessons: small practice amp, a couple of stools and her Ibanez bass. She encouraged me to record the session and soon she was teaching me her technique for playing bass.

Now I wasn’t a total newbie – Jamie had taught me some things. But technique is totally different between four string and six string guitars. Not only do you have much thicker strings and a longer, heavier neck to contend with – you’re going for a different effect – holding down the root note of each chord (though there are expections to that rule), usually concentrating on single notes rather than chords (again there are exceptions) and making sure that you provide the harmonic foundation for the tune but while throwing in some riffs at the right times to add some interest. Carol would take it even further. With her jazz background, she knew how to improvise – and if a tune was too boring for her, she’d find a way to add a little sonic sparkle with a well-placed riff or new take on a line. You know that song “The Beat Goes On” by Sonny and Cher? That descending bass line in the verse? Before Carol came along, it was just a straight and steady single note. But the descending line totally makes the tune – and I can’t imagine it would have gotten very far on the charts without it.

Aside from her busy recording job, Carol had been not only teaching bass, but self-publishing her own manuals, then VHS tapes, then DVDs, since 1969. So part of getting a lesson from her is getting access to these time-tested copies of her books and pamphlets bursting with various riffs she had created and played throughout her career. She also threw in lots of copies of articles she’d written, material written about her and even some royalty stubs from La Bamba or That Lovin’ Feelin.

You can still get her manuals online, many with the slightly blurry and cramped Courier font from the days of mimeographs and Xerox,  and within you can find the technique she honed over many years that allowed her to play constantly for 16 hours a day and never suffer repetitive stress syndrome or other musician-related injuries. All while wearing her strappy Kinney sandals and cats eye glasses. Actually, one of the most valuable lessons on her DVD “Bass DVD Course with Manual” is How To Groove where she clicks on her old metronome and instructs you to not only play in time with it, but to dance with it, to “groove” with it. And if you can groove with a metronome, you can groove to anything.

Some particulars of the Carol Kaye method: she uses flatwound strings and a pick (as opposed to her fingers like many other players do now), positioned in a certain way; on her left hand (her fretting hand), she uses her pinky finger instead of her ring finger to reach higher notes. And theory, lots of theory. Carol is first and foremost a jazz musician and her actual playing ability far exceeded the material she was paid to do. She thought rock was fun but kinda ‘kids stuff’. To this day, she’ll sit in with Plas Johnson (saxophone player on the Pink Panther theme) at a jazz cafe and run up and down that fretboard enough to make your head spin! So theory was very important to her (and new to me – I finally understood what a ‘fifth’ or a ‘third’ was!)

I’m not a jazzbo, but I picked up some of the basics and then she put me through my paces teaching me riffs she’d been paid to come up with throughout her career, including Wichita Lineman, Autumn Leaves,and Hikky Burr (theme from Bill Cosby’s show). Not that I could play them for you now (sad to say) but they did form a bedrock for bringing the bass to life for me on other tunes.

To our utter and sheer delight, she peppered her instructions with tales from her career. And there was some jaw-dropping stuff (at least to sixties music nerds like us). She worked with Brian Wilson (on many Beach Boys songs, but particularly on Pet Sounds) and told us how he already had everybody’s parts in his head and just dictated to each musician exactly what their lines were. Except for one part in Good Vibrations, where they needed a transition between parts. Carol had been experimenting with a fuzz-tone pedal and improvised a steadily repeated single note with the fuzz sound on the spot. Brian loved it and it’s a prominent part of one of the most classic rock songs of the sixties. Which she played for us on the spot and our hearts collectively skipped a beat hearing her do that live. She also worked with Phil Spector (and yes, he was a crazy asshole) and Quincy Jones (who she really dug).

Carol is a veritable treasure trove of music knowledge and LA stories and I got a lot from my three lessons. I don’t play nearly as well as her – or nearly as well as any of my other bass influences. But I did become a bass player. And getting to know a woman like Ms Kaye reminded me that it’s not about men vs women – it’s about working together to make amazing music happen.

I’ve barely scratched the surface of the Carol Kaye method, but if you’re interested in learning more, I highly recommend checking out her website (http://carolkaye.com/) and especially her materials here (http://www.carolkaye.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=21). You can even get a Skype lesson if you’re not close by! You’d be in the company of some other bass players who’ve been influenced by her books: Sting, John Paul Jones, Jaco Pastorius and Stu Hamm.

And this Saturday, Carol Kaye turns 77. Happy Birthday, Carol! You’re a huge inspiration to women everywhere – a fine example of being a total badass in a man’s world. People still don’t know your name but you are the unsung hero of 60’s and 70’s music in the Williams-Laboz household!

Here’s a trailer for a proposed documentary about this amazing woman and musician, “Her Name is Carol Kaye” – unfortunately they haven’t found funding but I really hope it still gets made someday. In the meantime, you can see (and hear) some of her magic:

My favorite quote: “When you hear somebody with balls, that’s me.” — Carol Kaye

That’s right, Carol – and may you keep bringin’ it on the bass for many more years to come.

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  1. Chris Cook says

    August 18, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    I’ve learned more from her instructional DVDs, CDs, and books than from any other instructor. She is awesome.

  2. D. Hoffman says

    October 3, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    I am just an old far musician so i have great fondness for Carol as a superior Jazz musician as well as all-’round studio player. I would wager that carol could have taken Lyle or Hal’s place on many sides and no one would have been the wiser. I do not recall her EVER sitting at a drum kit, but…

    Let’s remember that Carol is first and fore most a MUSICIAN and one with great ears. In my mind she is much like Mary Osborne, except far more versatile. And how did that versatility come about? She had kids to feed and a secretary’s salary with a few Jazz club dates on the side was not nearly as lucrative as a single date playing 1 -4 – 5 fender bass on a pop tune. back then it was 3 for 3. I.e.; 3 tunes in 3 hours. Only Phil Spector broke that rule and then…. Brian Wilson, who simply told his wife to book every Spector side-person musicina he could get! (after hearing Be My Baby). And person trying to sell records would not have done just that? would not have done that?

    Spector did not own Hal, Lyle, Bob, Ray, Carol, Tommy, etc.

    Carol’s serious playing is Jazz guitar, ut fender bass was paying more for a 3 hour session than she could earn in a week as a secretary. And this is before she became 1st call and began earning higher than union scale.

    Glen Campbell was in such demand that the producers would time their sessions around his golfing activities. Glen loved to play golf more than guitar!

    Tommy T. could read so well that he once turned his lead sheet up-side down. he played every note. When the leader walked up to inquire as to what the heck Tommy was playing, he saw that the lead sheet was upside down, yet Tommy was playing it exactly as written, but backwards, starting at the end. A good laugh i suspect, but Tedesco was a force of nature. Even serious Jazz players like BArney Kessel played the sessions to earn good money. In Kessels, case, he had to grit his teeth, but does the intro to Wouldn’t It Be Nice, sound like a guy who is hating every minute of what he is doing? BTW, those notes are not so obvious as the intro is in a different key than the song. I suspect, Kessel was like my old Manhattan mentor, the late, great Richard Lieberson . He acted the curmudgeon but in reality had a good heart and GREAT knowledge and chops. I would often see Richard playing dates for disparate music and instruments not familiar to him. i once caught him doing a Dixieland gig on tenor banjo, and Richard did not even OWN a banjo, nor did I ever hear him play, listen or did he own a dixieland record (he had a massive collection of Jazz and pop). —But there he was chomping away at the lead sheet without any rehearsal and not missing a beat.

    Any professional is like that. Music is ALL the same. 6s, dims, flatted 5ths and Maj 9th don’t change. Progressions span genres. So when barney played that lead intro to Wouldn’t It Be Nice, I suspect it affected him much like it did myself upon first listening; —as clever and purposeful A musician cannot fake playing well and FEELING the music. Sure, guys like Leon Russel certainly seemed to have strong “attitudes”, but a lot of that was just over-work and the natural personality of any one.

    As for carol, I have never met any one more gracious, pleasant, talented, skilled, tasteful and musically brilliant. plus she will never say a bad word about anyone (almost…). Carol showed me more about be a pleasant person than anything else -far more important than learning where that augmented, perverted, flatted 11th goes.

    One question I never got a chance to ask Carol was if she ever did a TV show like Art Ford’s live Jazz jam session. I suspect she has done things like that and I would love to see the kinescope. I have not had a chance to see Carol in a club playing Jazz on guitar with a combo and singer as I am a right-coast person. However, I may fly out there just to catch her at a low-key club date on a Weds night (best time to really see any Jazz combo work).

    The greatest fantasy I possess is to play a date with Hal Blaine, Lyle Rutz and Carol holding the rhythm down. In my dreams…

    PAIX

    Donnie

    BTW: Carol we have not corresponded since before Earl passed (it has been a LONG time!). Please accept my belated condolences as I know that you two were great freinds.

    I recall a few years back chatting back and forth with carol via the new e-Mail -but I got busy on some project and time passed, the next thing i knew her email no longer worked and we lost touch.

    • cwilliams says

      October 3, 2016 at 6:08 pm

      Goodness gracious, donnie – what a rich and interesting comment! Btw, you could try contacting her through the forum on her website – I need to drop in myself. Thanks so much and may you someday have your fantasy show come true (you just never know!)

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